I hope I've misunderstood your message (or rather tone), otherwise I'm disappointed that I have to explain this again. If what I propose ends up being implemented in Houdini it is because SESI also thinks it's a good idea. Besides, it's not as if I'm gonna implement whatever I like. I indeed many times disagreed with ideas proposed by others, but that's because too often those are inspired from Maya/Max (as are mine from Soft) but if you remember, I've already tried most of those… Ultimately, it doesn't matter where that idea comes from, don't get hung up on that. So you see, the process is actually this: I throw on the table an idea and everyone who thinks he can improve upon it is welcome to do so. Now, most of these will be from Softimage because that's what I use, but please remember that my choice is not aleatory, it's simply because most of the tools and workflow is the best of any 3d app I've tried and I've tried them all and with many (Adsk family) even worked a lot more than just “tried”. I simply compare tools/workflows from Houdini to those I know to work better or be faster. So your impression is that I want Houdini to copy Softimage exactly w/o deviation, so having that as mould, there's no need for discussion. Man, I sometimes suffer from mental lag, but when it hits me, it hits me hard. There are some very useful pics/gifs in there as Oh now I get it… your comment was actually sarcastic.

Are they going to still be accessible to you (SESI) after the expiration date? I ask because if the answer is no, I'd like w/ your permission to copy-psate just the parts with the pure technical content (usually the first post). BTW, I've addressed a few tools in the other sub-forum. MartybNz As far as I can tell the modelling benchmark is the Softimages toolset that's a very visible mark to test against than. As far as I'm concerned we barely scratched the surface with H14. I don't understand what changed in the meantime… We didn't even get to talk about all the tools missing or in need of dire improvement.

As for the “resuming”, I'm referring to the discussion about improving modeling tools and workflows in Houdini. You asked what do I think and I said I'm not sure what are you referring to, but if it's about modeling… you know what I said after that. Can you outline what you want to resume here in the discussion if no tools, barring selections, have been improved in H14 and people have no more experience modelling in Houdini than before? I too am confused about your confusion. edge slide (that works with soft selections) You and me both. proper tweak tool (that works with sof selections) - visual feedback on geometry when using soft selections. Werner Ziemerink 3 things I would like to see next. I'd like to see an improvement here in terms of workflow. It's incredibly slow when compared to Softimage where I simply alt LMB a point ( alt for pivot activation which is moved around with an auto-snap to the points belonging to the selected object). Give us more of this, and I will be happy. Werner Ziemerink I love that we can now move the transform gizmo to a temp location to edit with the ' key. Pretty sure Houdini won't take the path of a purebred modeler (it might be too late for that already ) and while I don't exclude the possibility and usefulness of having a strong NURBS modeling toolset, I think we ought to sort the poly-modeling part first. MartybNz Anyone interested in better nurbs modelling like in MoI 3d, Moment of Inspiration? It's very clean and usuable non-polygon/sub-d based. Hopefully this will change in the future as I'm looking forward to being able to take advantage of Houdini's strengths without leaving into other apps for poly modeling.

The modeling tools and viewport interactions are still way too inefficient and/or buggy (as in giving poor results) for me to leave my current tools. MartybNz You'll have 10 months more experience with Houdini than when this thread started what do you think now? Bridge Tool, Bevel enhancements first thing to develop? What do I think about what? I didn't do any “real” modeling in Houdini if that's what you're talking about, only tests.

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